The Gateway Pundit’s Jim Hoft joined former Trump Pardon Attorney and longtime friend Ed Martin on “The Early Bird Show” on Real America’s Voice on Friday.
The two discussed recent events and predictions, censorship issues, the radical left and our picks for the 2028 presidential race.
Ed Martin: Jim Hoft, welcome to the program. Great to see you again. How are you?
Jim Hoft: Great to see you, Ed. Thank you.
Ed Martin: Well, so Jim, one observation first, ’cause you’ve lived with the world where they throttled your business model They almost put you out of business. I mean, they would’ve, a normal business, if I can say for you, the Gateway Pundit, if you had had staffed up and bought a building and rented stuff, you would’ve gone outta business because they throttled your income through big tech.
My question to you is what big tech did and you fought through, and now we’re living in this environment now, big tech is no less a threat, are they?
Jim Hoft: I agree with you 100%. We still see our accounts throttled back, censored. And it’s hard sometimes for people to find us on, even X… I believe the algorithm against us was put in place back in 2016… Anyway, but after that election, they found out that Gateway Pundit was one of the most influential voices. And so they immediately— we lost our Twitter traffic, our Facebook traffic. Later, we were banned from Twitter, X, for a year. And now we’re just trying to rebuild on social media.
You know what’s wild, though, Ed, is that our numbers continued to grow year over year despite this censorship. And I don’t believe there was anyone censored more than us. And we had 1 billion page views last year. So that must really drive them crazy. But, it’s still very harmful to us. And as you know, Ed, the left gets all the perks. They get all the college speeches, they get all the money flowing at them, you know, and we don’t get that. We have to, you know, go for advertising and things like that to raise money, donations sometimes, but it’s just two completely different environments. I don’t know if people understand just how hostile it is still today against conservative publications.
Ed Martin: We’re talking with Jim Hoft. He’s the founder and editor-in-chief of Gateway Pundit. I know it very well. And I’ll just put a, I’ll drop a footnote just to say it. We don’t need to go into it, ‘Cause I don’t wanna spend more time on it, but Facebook, for example, throttled back the access to Gateway Pundit after 2016 in a way that basically took, I mean, we’re talking like 90% of the traffic just away because they decided they didn’t wanna do it. I mean, my point here is to remind our viewers of the power, the power of the entities, and we pretend that they’re all benign. They go to events…
… Jim, another question, though, about your history now. Think about it. It’s more than a decade of leading in this way, The Gateway Pundit. The voices that you’re able to lift up, Because it’s true that you do the grassroots. In fact, you and I really got our start doing the St. Louis Tea Party and that whole explosion of energy. But you have writers, you have voices. How would you describe what Gateway Pundit is able to do and who you’re putting up onto the site?
Jim Hoft: You know, Ed, I’m very proud of the fact that after January 6th, 2020, we started representing and posting the stories of all these men and women who had been targeted by the government, grandmothers from Iowa who walked through the Capitol, were waved in, and then were put in jail for 6 months, moms and people who were beat up. And we raised over $3 million on Give-Send-Go, different accounts. They took the money. We didn’t touch it. I was very proud of that. I always wanted to help the patriots in America. And so those are the type of voices— I love those stories, the human interest stories…
Ed Martin: Jim, are you worried when you, when you worry about things in terms of your business and your, and your, you know, your reporters and the people who publish with you? I know you worry to make the model succeed and be able to pay people and have people make a living to get these voices out. But, and you worry about when they’re throttling you back. You must be sitting there saying and hearing the rhetoric from some of these Democrats that won. and saying, you know, we’re gonna use local prosecutors, state attorneys general, we’re gonna use everything we can to come after things. How worried— how much do you worry about that you’ll be targeted, that you’ll be— that the system is shifting in such a way away from what America was founded on?
Jim Hoft: Yeah, Ed, you know, I thought the unusual thing was after the election results were just announced, these guys come out and said, we’re gonna get you, you better lawyer up, you know, we’re coming after you… They weren’t saying what they’re gonna do for the American people, they’re saying, We’re gonna destroy our enemies. And the enemies to the left is American citizens and American patriots. And so of course that’s concerning. And, you know, we’ll see what happens. I love that, like you said, I love what you said. Trump is going, he’s immediately reacting to these threats. And I think that’s the right thing to do. I think that’s a brilliant move…